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	<title>Comments on: So&#8230; what does this have to do with Obama?</title>
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		<title>By: BlargenBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; See, I Told You So.</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlargenBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; See, I Told You So.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] knew I was taking a gamble by defending Pastor Wright a few weeks ago. I knew that until I saw the video, I wouldn&#8217;t have an informed opinion or a solid defense of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] knew I was taking a gamble by defending Pastor Wright a few weeks ago. I knew that until I saw the video, I wouldn&#8217;t have an informed opinion or a solid defense of [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: postsimian</title>
		<link>http://blargen.com/blog/2008/03/14/so-what-does-this-have-to-do-with-obama/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>postsimian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blargen.com/blog/2008/03/14/so-what-does-this-have-to-do-with-obama/#comment-13</guid>
		<description>"Physician, heal thyself."

But sir, nary a wound was inflicted!

Republicans' part in the scumbaggery is voting for Clinton in an attempt to disrupt the Democratic primaries.  Conservatives are able to sleep at night by telling themselves they're not subverting democracy, because Democrats crossed over to vote for McCain.  This is categorically false, and, I don't mind saying, makes Republicans look like utter dolts.  In a historically, epically contested primary, hardly a single Democrat would waste their vote by trying to get McCain nominated to help win the general election.  But, like I said, whatever helps you sleep at night.  

As for the Clintons, I don't know whether they have their fingerprints on this one or not.  But if they did, I'm the last person on earth who'd be surprised.  The one thing that has been proven above all else is how excessively understated the depth of her divisiveness truly is.  

I do have to take a moment to laugh, address, then laugh again about your claim that the so-called "Left" are hatemongers.  You just don't get it, do you?  The right consistently maligns us as being communist, unpatriotic, anti-American, anti-values, anti-religious moral reprobates, then in the same breath call gays less-than-human, support torture, are at times blatantly anti-Muslim (or any other religion that isn't Protestant), blatantly oppose African American interests, support profit-at-any-cost corporations who defraud the public and systematically abuse workers overseas, then support legislation which makes us less free, all while beating the "we're the freest country in the world" drum but ignoring that while we're not the most populous country in the world, we have the most people in prison, mainly due to laws that are aimed at the non-rich--and you call us the hateful ones.  Conservatives fight against the "intellectual establishment," which, because I'm confused, doesn't make much sense.  Last I checked, to be smart enough to be considered an "intellectual" was a good thing, but the Right claims they're trying to enslave us all yet say it while defending the totalitarian merits of the GOP-preferred FISA bill.  

Anyway, it would take a Cray supercomputer to calculate all the times Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter have spewed nonsense about "liberal hate" while actively and PROUDLY condoning hatred of anyone who sits to the left of Jessie Helms.  Let's not even get into how many times their followers have mindlessly parroted these sentiments without actually knowing a single liberal outside the internet.

Yet, when liberals fight back and call you out on it, we're hateful.  Shame on you.  That's like saying someone is hateful for calling a person who thinks other races are inferior a racist, or for calling someone who rapes people a rapist.  What we're doing is calling a spade a spade.  Don't like it?  Then don't vote for people who do shady, scumbag things.

You say we're hateful and anti-American because we are brave enough to recognize and address the problems with this country.  We're willing to examine our shortcomings not to put America down, but in hopes of fixing it.  When Republicans, and Conservatives in particular say that Liberals hate America because we bitch about what's wrong with it, it's akin to saying a son hates his father because he points out that he has an addiction, or that a sister hates her brother because she points out that he has problems.  Nevermind that the son loves his father, and the sister loves her brother--according to you, we shouldn't address their shortcomings, we should just throw them in prison, right?  It never occurs to the Right that the child and sibling say something because they want to help.  They want to see the person--in Liberals case, the country--get better.  Believe it or not, it's not about hate.  It's about love.  

I also noticed that you're using an anonymous email address.  The Republican's take on it:  "Privacy does not mean Anonymity."  Enjoy it while you can.  I blogged about it awhile back, if you care to take a look.  Anyway, I don't think all Republicans are scumbags.  Nobody I know thinks every Republican fits that title.  But the Republican party does things like this (and, yes, Democrats do scummy things to at times), and its supporters don't say a word.  Look at the issue of torture.  I'll bet if I asked any Republican five years ago whether they could ever see the U.S. torturing people, I &lt;em&gt;guarantee&lt;/em&gt; you they'd have to think about it.  They'd have to get back to me on it, because it's a serious issue that requires deep thought.  What it should do is provide an ethical dilemma in the people's minds.  "Could &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; ever do this?  How would I feel about being tortured?  Is this what America really stands for?"  But nowadays, it's knee-jerk.  "FUCK YES, TORTURE THOSE BASTARDS!"  No thought.  No ethical dilemma.  No internal struggle.  That's pretty scumbag-ish, if you ask me.  Seems to be that way with every issue, anymore.  When I apply the broad term, this is one of many cogs in the clockwork that brings me there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Physician, heal thyself.&#8221;</p>
<p>But sir, nary a wound was inflicted!</p>
<p>Republicans&#8217; part in the scumbaggery is voting for Clinton in an attempt to disrupt the Democratic primaries.  Conservatives are able to sleep at night by telling themselves they&#8217;re not subverting democracy, because Democrats crossed over to vote for McCain.  This is categorically false, and, I don&#8217;t mind saying, makes Republicans look like utter dolts.  In a historically, epically contested primary, hardly a single Democrat would waste their vote by trying to get McCain nominated to help win the general election.  But, like I said, whatever helps you sleep at night.  </p>
<p>As for the Clintons, I don&#8217;t know whether they have their fingerprints on this one or not.  But if they did, I&#8217;m the last person on earth who&#8217;d be surprised.  The one thing that has been proven above all else is how excessively understated the depth of her divisiveness truly is.  </p>
<p>I do have to take a moment to laugh, address, then laugh again about your claim that the so-called &#8220;Left&#8221; are hatemongers.  You just don&#8217;t get it, do you?  The right consistently maligns us as being communist, unpatriotic, anti-American, anti-values, anti-religious moral reprobates, then in the same breath call gays less-than-human, support torture, are at times blatantly anti-Muslim (or any other religion that isn&#8217;t Protestant), blatantly oppose African American interests, support profit-at-any-cost corporations who defraud the public and systematically abuse workers overseas, then support legislation which makes us less free, all while beating the &#8220;we&#8217;re the freest country in the world&#8221; drum but ignoring that while we&#8217;re not the most populous country in the world, we have the most people in prison, mainly due to laws that are aimed at the non-rich&#8211;and you call us the hateful ones.  Conservatives fight against the &#8220;intellectual establishment,&#8221; which, because I&#8217;m confused, doesn&#8217;t make much sense.  Last I checked, to be smart enough to be considered an &#8220;intellectual&#8221; was a good thing, but the Right claims they&#8217;re trying to enslave us all yet say it while defending the totalitarian merits of the GOP-preferred FISA bill.  </p>
<p>Anyway, it would take a Cray supercomputer to calculate all the times Bill O&#8217;Reilly, Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter have spewed nonsense about &#8220;liberal hate&#8221; while actively and PROUDLY condoning hatred of anyone who sits to the left of Jessie Helms.  Let&#8217;s not even get into how many times their followers have mindlessly parroted these sentiments without actually knowing a single liberal outside the internet.</p>
<p>Yet, when liberals fight back and call you out on it, we&#8217;re hateful.  Shame on you.  That&#8217;s like saying someone is hateful for calling a person who thinks other races are inferior a racist, or for calling someone who rapes people a rapist.  What we&#8217;re doing is calling a spade a spade.  Don&#8217;t like it?  Then don&#8217;t vote for people who do shady, scumbag things.</p>
<p>You say we&#8217;re hateful and anti-American because we are brave enough to recognize and address the problems with this country.  We&#8217;re willing to examine our shortcomings not to put America down, but in hopes of fixing it.  When Republicans, and Conservatives in particular say that Liberals hate America because we bitch about what&#8217;s wrong with it, it&#8217;s akin to saying a son hates his father because he points out that he has an addiction, or that a sister hates her brother because she points out that he has problems.  Nevermind that the son loves his father, and the sister loves her brother&#8211;according to you, we shouldn&#8217;t address their shortcomings, we should just throw them in prison, right?  It never occurs to the Right that the child and sibling say something because they want to help.  They want to see the person&#8211;in Liberals case, the country&#8211;get better.  Believe it or not, it&#8217;s not about hate.  It&#8217;s about love.  </p>
<p>I also noticed that you&#8217;re using an anonymous email address.  The Republican&#8217;s take on it:  &#8220;Privacy does not mean Anonymity.&#8221;  Enjoy it while you can.  I blogged about it awhile back, if you care to take a look.  Anyway, I don&#8217;t think all Republicans are scumbags.  Nobody I know thinks every Republican fits that title.  But the Republican party does things like this (and, yes, Democrats do scummy things to at times), and its supporters don&#8217;t say a word.  Look at the issue of torture.  I&#8217;ll bet if I asked any Republican five years ago whether they could ever see the U.S. torturing people, I <em>guarantee</em> you they&#8217;d have to think about it.  They&#8217;d have to get back to me on it, because it&#8217;s a serious issue that requires deep thought.  What it should do is provide an ethical dilemma in the people&#8217;s minds.  &#8220;Could <em>I</em> ever do this?  How would I feel about being tortured?  Is this what America really stands for?&#8221;  But nowadays, it&#8217;s knee-jerk.  &#8220;FUCK YES, TORTURE THOSE BASTARDS!&#8221;  No thought.  No ethical dilemma.  No internal struggle.  That&#8217;s pretty scumbag-ish, if you ask me.  Seems to be that way with every issue, anymore.  When I apply the broad term, this is one of many cogs in the clockwork that brings me there.</p>
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		<title>By: skeptical</title>
		<link>http://blargen.com/blog/2008/03/14/so-what-does-this-have-to-do-with-obama/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>skeptical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blargen.com/blog/2008/03/14/so-what-does-this-have-to-do-with-obama/#comment-11</guid>
		<description>In response to Jimi Moore's comment:

Please, you don't think the Clinton's have their fingerprints all over this Pastor Wright issue as well?   You do exactly what you suggests Republicans do.  You fail to take any responsibility for the actions of democrats in this farce.  You are taking down your own party.  The repubs don't NEED to help.  Not saying they aren't, only that they don't need to.    The first sentence where you call all Repubs "scumbags" and then accuse THEM of being full of hate is laughable, but right on target for democratic thinking.  The original blog is just as bad.  He professes that "[these people are] happily going to vote for whatever bum the Republicans squeeze out of their dookie-holes"   ROFL.  Many of "these people" are democrats backing HRC.  Sorry to rain on the Obama victory parade.



Physician, heal thyself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Jimi Moore&#8217;s comment:</p>
<p>Please, you don&#8217;t think the Clinton&#8217;s have their fingerprints all over this Pastor Wright issue as well?   You do exactly what you suggests Republicans do.  You fail to take any responsibility for the actions of democrats in this farce.  You are taking down your own party.  The repubs don&#8217;t NEED to help.  Not saying they aren&#8217;t, only that they don&#8217;t need to.    The first sentence where you call all Repubs &#8220;scumbags&#8221; and then accuse THEM of being full of hate is laughable, but right on target for democratic thinking.  The original blog is just as bad.  He professes that &#8220;[these people are] happily going to vote for whatever bum the Republicans squeeze out of their dookie-holes&#8221;   ROFL.  Many of &#8220;these people&#8221; are democrats backing HRC.  Sorry to rain on the Obama victory parade.</p>
<p>Physician, heal thyself.</p>
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		<title>By: postsimian</title>
		<link>http://blargen.com/blog/2008/03/14/so-what-does-this-have-to-do-with-obama/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>postsimian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching CSPAN tonight, I was floored by the sheer volume of non-sequitur arguments made by the Republicans (and Bush, in the NY Economic Club meeting) regarding the FISA bill.  Their reasoning?  "Grant immunity to our wonderful" (they don't mention "unlawful" or "spying") "corporations or we're not doing our job to protect the American people from terrorists."  What?  I need to blog about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching CSPAN tonight, I was floored by the sheer volume of non-sequitur arguments made by the Republicans (and Bush, in the NY Economic Club meeting) regarding the FISA bill.  Their reasoning?  &#8220;Grant immunity to our wonderful&#8221; (they don&#8217;t mention &#8220;unlawful&#8221; or &#8220;spying&#8221;) &#8220;corporations or we&#8217;re not doing our job to protect the American people from terrorists.&#8221;  What?  I need to blog about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimi Moore</title>
		<link>http://blargen.com/blog/2008/03/14/so-what-does-this-have-to-do-with-obama/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimi Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing is below these scumbags. When you are full of hate, why you spit lies and vitriol. Plain and simple. And most of all a Republican can never, ever take responsibility for their actions or inactions. Any fault or error by definition is someone else's fault. 

Knowledge is unwanted in this group. So is understanding. Having either one might then get you labeled an intellectual, which is well known as code for liberal. The ability to engage those who disagree with you is a weakness. And the bullshit will go on until we all drown in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing is below these scumbags. When you are full of hate, why you spit lies and vitriol. Plain and simple. And most of all a Republican can never, ever take responsibility for their actions or inactions. Any fault or error by definition is someone else&#8217;s fault. </p>
<p>Knowledge is unwanted in this group. So is understanding. Having either one might then get you labeled an intellectual, which is well known as code for liberal. The ability to engage those who disagree with you is a weakness. And the bullshit will go on until we all drown in it.</p>
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