Fundie Week!
You heard it right, folks! Next week we’re going to be have blog posts every day dedicated to fundies. The main topics we’ll be covering will include Christian Science, the Separation of Church and State, Christians and the GOP, and the Origins of Christianity. Other, less wordy topics will include a tip sheet on Etiquette for the Religious, A Secular View on Christianity, and how Jesus Was a Liberal.
April 3rd, 2008 at 11:55 am
Thanks for making your bias clear. Your post is about “fundies” but you make no mention of fundamentalist Islam or Judaism. Clearly your disdain for “fundies”, as is the case with most liberals, is focused on Christians.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:15 pm
You’d benefit by discarding your stereotypes; I’m equally hostile to all religions. Ya dumbass. My bias favors humanity over people who want to control others because the invisible man in the sky told them to.
The reason I’m targeting Christians? Muslims aren’t trying to work their religion into law in America; Christians are. Besides, Islamic fundamentalism is a phenomenon that is concentrated in the following locations: Indonesia, the Middle East and parts of Africa, though it has recently appeared in some southern areas of Europe.
When the Muslims here decide they want everyone to live under Sharia law, I’ll deal with them then. Right now, they’re not, Christians are. Otherwise, I’m pretty consistent about criticizing both Israel and the Muslim world on their human rights violations and war crimes.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:25 pm
“Muslims aren’t trying to work their religion into law in America”
Where’ve you BEEN?
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Oops. Forgot to add “Ya Dumbass”.
April 3rd, 2008 at 12:40 pm
And 95% of the earth’s inhabitants believe in that “invisible man in the sky” in one form or another. But you you’re smarter than the rest of us, huh? We’re all deluded, eh? Wouldn’t that define hubris?
Fucking angry atheists. Argh!
April 3rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Oh Awesome! Will there be the obligatory baby eating and virgin sacrifices, too? I mean, if you ain’t a fundie, you gotta be a baby eater.
BTW…an “evangelical” friend asked me on the Thursday before Easter what “You people” do to celebrate. She said “You people” because she knows that Mr. Rix and I were brought up Catholic. I told her we ate babies and sacrificed goats…cuz you know Catholics ain’t ‘real’ Christians.
April 3rd, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Rix, I’m going to sacrifice 100 babies in honor of the Flying Spaghetti Monster now that I’ve finally found out what pushes Vonsters buttons: telling him his faith is wrong. Stick around Von. You’re gonna learn some things.
Let’s start with your claim that 95% of on earth people believe in god. First off, Non-eastern atheists number in the hundreds of millions. Second, China has around a billion people, which is considerably more than 5%, not to mention the surrounding areas that try to emulate China, and they are either atheistic or hide their religion–ya dumbass. Then there are also about a billion Indians who have a polytheistic religion, and believe in many invisible men and women in the sky. But Hindus in America are not trying to write our laws, just like Muslims aren’t.
In fact, why don’t you start citing examples of Muslim Americans trying to make their religion the law in this country. Moreover, name one success they’ve had, versus the many successes Christians have had.
Fact: Conservatives make up random bullshit statistics 95% of the time.
April 3rd, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Mr W just read this and went to get my “fundies”
April 3rd, 2008 at 6:09 pm
haha. I’ll be as fair as I can be on this one.
But… what are your fundies?
April 3rd, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Get schooled, Reno.
April 3rd, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Der, I think “schooled” is fundie speak for “Prepare the Virgin Sacrifice”.
April 4th, 2008 at 3:59 am
All this religious “diversity” is killing us. Literally. Were it within my power I would either abolish all religion entirely or find some way to zap it into just one religion … because this mess we live with now is just a drag. Too many people use it as leverage in the never-ending power struggle mankind can’t seem to outgrow. Get rid of greed and religion and we might have some peace and quiet.
April 4th, 2008 at 7:42 am
The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit Thursday claiming that a Wyoming State Penitentiary policy restricting prisoners’ mealtimes violates the constitutional rights of two Muslim inmates. […] At issue is an alleged “20-minute rule” requiring inmates to eat their meals within 20 minutes after the food is delivered to a cell or common dining area, the lawsuit said. The lawsuit seeks for the inmates to be exempted from the rule because it forces them to choose between eating and practicing their religion.
April 4th, 2008 at 7:48 am
Regardless of your skewed perception, I’m not a fundie by any stretch. Then again, some jerks think anybody who professes faith at all is a fundie.
April 4th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Vonster - you sure pulled out the judgement cannons quick on this one. You say you’re not a fundie now, but I think we’ll know one way or another by the end of the week. I’m the one with skewed perceptions? You’re the one filtering your perceptions through a religion.
Michael - I’m all for people having their religions, traditions and customs. More power to ‘em. When they purposefully muddy the water or try forcing their religion on everyone and passing judgement on those who reject it, then we have a problem. But it’s funny that you mention greed and religion. I’m actually in the middle of writing a piece on those very things! Nice!
April 4th, 2008 at 9:32 am
I’d hate to think what medium you’re filtering your perception through…ugh.
April 4th, 2008 at 10:00 am
And if Jesus was a liberal, he wouldn’t believe in himself!
April 4th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Is that what this is all about?
April 4th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
There is such a difference between “faith in a Supreme Being” and “religion”. Take away the rituals and rules and there would be no religion! Religion separates the faithful and creates the havoc of “my way is better (more right) than yours, so join or die”. Over the years, how many people have been murdered in the name of religion. I wish for freedom from religion. I have no problem with people recognizing the Supreme Being of their choice, honoring the combined “souls of all that gather in the cosmos”, finding their spirit in the quiet of nature or just stumbling through life taking credit for their accomplishments and responsibility for the failings. I choose the later.
April 4th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Sorry, but God (other than Good Orderly Direction) didn’t do it for me and the Devil didn’t make me do it! Whatever “it” happens to be.
April 4th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
It looks like an interesting week coming up!
April 5th, 2008 at 11:00 am
Oh, I won’t hype it too terribly much. But I’m having quite a bit of fun writing it all.
Also, I didn’t even catch Vonsters “Muslim Prisoners” thing, so here’s my response: Yes, Vonster, respecting the eating patterns of Muslim prisoners is sooooo much like making our kids pray in school, or teaching them that Creationism is as scientifically valid as the Theory of Evolution.
Maybe this goes back to the whole “Vonster’s a bigot” thing, because you really don’t seem to be making a distinction between demands that their rights be respected and demands that others act the way they want them to. All you see is “Muslims want rights” and interpret it as “Islamic extremists are trying to destroy the American way.” Tsk.
April 6th, 2008 at 10:53 am
You don’t ‘em having much luck with those items do ya? Not like special foot baths, ya know?
April 6th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Ooops “see ‘em”
April 6th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
looking forward to the posts this week!
April 7th, 2008 at 7:39 am
An interesting note:
New Delhi: Comparing the benefits of health insurance policy to gambling, key Islamic organisations have termed the policies as “illegal” and directed Muslims to keep away from them.
At a seminar to deliberate whether insuring health was permissible under Islamic law Shariat, the Islamic Fiqh Academy (India) decided that availing such policies was illegal.
April 7th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Last I checked, India is not America.
…and you honestly wonder why I call you a dumbass sometimes?
April 7th, 2008 at 10:34 am
Maybe the dumbass is the one who overlooked “An interesting note…”
April 7th, 2008 at 10:37 am
Of course, maybe I’m a dumbass for voluntarily conversing with someone who calls people dumbass at the drop of a hat.
April 7th, 2008 at 11:07 am
WOO HOO! EVERYONE’S A DUMBASS TODAY!! PARTY!
Dumbass is a term of endearment ’round these parts.
Seriously, what’s your point about the interesting note?
April 8th, 2008 at 7:22 am
No point other than this would be illegal here under some proposed universal health plans. Otherwise exactly as advertised - an interesting note somewhat tangential to the the discussion.
April 8th, 2008 at 7:33 am
Another reason to be glad for the separation of church and state.
April 8th, 2008 at 9:36 am
SOCAS? You’re referring to the anti-establish clause? No to worry - lots of people get it wrong.
April 8th, 2008 at 9:45 am
You one of ‘em?
April 8th, 2008 at 10:12 am
I don’t think so. I can read.
April 8th, 2008 at 10:13 am
So your problem has more to do with comprehension. I’ll write that down.
April 8th, 2008 at 10:36 am
I just don’t read words that aren’t there. You are free to, if you must.
April 8th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Alright vonster, let’s hear your interpretation so I can tear it down like I usually do, point out the obvious mistakes and laugh at your expense. Believe it or not, it does get old after awhile.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”
The first amendment creates and commands a separation, no matter how hard you spin it.
April 8th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Here’s what Thomas Jefferson had to say about it. Y’know, Jefferson? One of those founding fathers you wingnuts love misquoting so often: “Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their “legislature” should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between church and State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.”
This is from the guy that wrote the damn thing. I’m pretty sure he knows what it means. That’s my trump card.
April 8th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Then I will be glad to read into any contract you and I might engage in, any such interpretations I like despite your protestations that the contract does say what I think. Or would you prefer we stick to what is actually written? I might as easily contend that not allowing prayer in school constitutes “prohibiting the free exercise thereof”
Did the collected delegates affix their signatures to Jefferson’s personal ramblings or rather a document all reviewed and consented to if not fully agreed upon?
April 8th, 2008 at 11:43 am
And what is getting old is your dismissive tone.
April 8th, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Vonster, the reason I’m dismissive is mainly because your unfailing support for the Republican party. Actually, anyone who supports either party as ardently as you do simply cannot claim to be a naked, barebones Constitutionalist. You can’t claim to hold one part of the Constitution as being as-stated, yet apply interpretation to others. There’s not a single Republican out there that can claim to be such a Constitutionalist when they consistently and jointly protect and defend the President, who has desecrated Constitutional rights all over the place and laid waste to the separation of powers and the system of checks and balances.
You defend Bush’s policy of illegal domestic wiretapping, which is blatantly an “unreasonable search” as specified by the Fourth Amendment. You republicans interpret the Second Amendment as having the right to own an automatic weapon for protecting your property, even though, as referred to by the clause “being necessary to the security of a free State,” it is there to protect citizens against the government, not from each other.
Oh, what else? I’m just getting started, Von. Let’s move down the list: Fifth and Sixth Amendments, due process/speedy public trial. This is being shit on by Guantanamo Bay. The case of Jose Padilla is another textbook example of 5/6A violations. Eighth Amendment for excessive bail–this one is trampled upon daily. Cruel and unusual punishment? State-sponsored torture. Ninth Amendment? Bush policy eradicates that. Tenth Amendment? The government assumes all kinds of powers the states should have.
And yet, after all this, you’re saying only the most rigid of definitions for the First Amendment applies. Now I know you’re playing games.
April 8th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I can’t be as selective of a constructionist as most liberals are?
Damn!
April 8th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
You have a good chance of having a Democrat for President soon and you already have a Demo controlled Congress. Who will you blame when Bush is gone?? When’s the last time you voted Republican?
April 8th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
I have to go now - FreeMasons meeting you know. Have to practice my secret handshake.
April 8th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Vonster, enough. Come back when you have something to contribute.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Dismissive again?
April 8th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Impatient. I’m bored with the bickering.
April 8th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
We shouldn’t bicker but just agree with you, eh?
April 8th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
April 8th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
The “ARE” should be emphasized.
April 8th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Nevermind, Von. You just don’t get it. There’s a difference between bickering and discussing.
April 9th, 2008 at 7:05 am
Yup. Dumbass Christian.
April 9th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Bye Vonster.