Clinton Supporters are Delusional.
What is it that fuels the Clinton campaign? Is it the constant, uninterrupted string of negative campaigning, which has been going on from day one? Is it the fact that she’s older, or that she’s a woman? Is it her perceived level of experience? Is it because of her husband? Is it because Barack Obama is black? As it turns out, it’s all of the above.
Be sure to whisper the word “black” as it appears in italics throughout this blog. Y’know, like you do when you’re talking to your white friends. Let’s take a look at the linked article to see what the typical, older Clinton supporter has to say:
John Peterman, 85, a former Navy engineer, said he supported Mrs. Clinton because “the world is not ready for a black president.” His wife, Mary, 81, agreed with him.
Wow, I’d think I was eating candy from all the sugar-coating in that statement. That is, until I bite down and realize I’m eating a fried puke-and-shit burrito. Blech!
There is only one thing “the world is not ready for a black president” means. It’s really another way of saying “a black man can’t win,” which is a polite way of saying,”I wouldn’t vote for a black guy,” a naked admission of racism. Before rolling your eyes, notice how his policies never come up when people make these statements.
What sickens me about it is that Clinton uses this to her advantage, this bigotry. Notice how she’s never come out and said,”No, he’s not a Muslim,” or how she never sufficiently distanced herself from Geraldine Ferraro, who was allowed to call Obama everything but a nigger without being condemned by the Clinton campaign.
Our next idiotic statement:
Arla Hacker, 49, a bank teller, said she also liked Mrs. Clinton because she had Ms. Hacker’s economic interests at heart. “The people who are 18 and 20 years old don’t know what it’s like to sit in a gas line,” she said. “Kids today don’t understand how tough it is. Obama just talks about it.”
Better than ignoring it. Obama talks about issues. Maybe you should listen to him some time. Clinton, on the other hand, talks about Obama, and how she’s one of you. She just knew it would come down to Texas, because Texas is soooo important. She’s got family history in Pennsylvania. She’s got Jewish roots.
Anything it takes to win, eh Hill?
This statement from Ms. Hacker is rich all by itself. “Kids today don’t understand how tough it is.” On a day where my bullshit detector might be set to low, I might have caught myself agreeing with this. Still, I would have eventually realized she was talking about my generation.
If we forget that gas is the highest price it’s ever been while the value of the dollar is now lower than the Canadian dollar… if we forget that the unemployment rate continues to rise, that the housing market crashed, that college tuition takes a lifetime to repay–if one can afford it in the first place. If we ignore the rising price of groceries, exorbitant energy costs and rising costs of living across the board, or this country’s insane healthcare system… while ignoring the fact the the United States is at the lowest point it has ever been in world opinion while people are afraid of being shot on their way to class, or in the mall, or being blown to pieces while waiting for a subway and worry constantly about loved ones serving their country in an illegal war of profit and aggression under the most corrupt and secretive administration in the history of the U.S… then sure, we don’t know a god damn thing you fucking idiot.
Yeah, we know it’s hard. Enjoy your cushy little job at the bank while the youth of this country works its ass off to barely make ends meet, then gets laid off while the company they worked for earns a massive profit.
Noel Stein, 72, and his wife, Judy, 67, both like Mrs. Clinton. Mrs. Stein said she liked her “because she’s a woman” and Mr. Stein said he liked her because of her husband.
I don’t want to jump on this with sexism accusations because women ought to be excited that Clinton has gotten this far. But to list that as your primary reason is pretty shallow. Her husband, obviously, is an idiot. There’s just no excuse for him.
“If I was in my 20s, maybe I’d support Obama,” said Germaine Donahue, 64, who lives in Sullivan County, in northeastern Pennsylvania, and helps run a cleaning service. “But life tempers you. I’m with Hillary.”
Ah yes, the tried and true “I’m older, therefore I’m right/you’re younger, therefore you’re wrong” argument. Not only is this one insulting, but it lacks merit.
“Barack Obama has no experience and no plans. He just works on emotions, and this is why young people like him,” said Kimberly Romm, 44, who is self-employed and heard Mrs. Clinton speak at Haverford College. “People who are more mature analyze things. They’re wiser.”
Another “I’m right for no other reason than for my age” argument. I guess that makes Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld smarter than you, since they’re older and therefore right.
See? It’s not a great argument.
It’s time to acknowledge that the older generation has failed us all. It is time for something new.
How’s this for working on emotion: As many as 28% of Clinton supporters would vote for McCain if Obama gets the nomination. Of Obama supporters, the people who are truly “more mature” and “analyze things,” only ten percent would vote for McCain.
The Clintonian reputation of divisiveness is not an exaggeration. Her people have made this personal and gave up all sense of reason in the process. Now, it doesn’t matter if Hillary is hurting the Democratic party. It doesn’t matter that she resorts to negative campaigning while Obama takes the high road. It doesn’t matter that Bill Clinton said he’d vote Republican if Obama gets it. It doesn’t matter if they intend to doom us to 4-8 more years of Bush’s disastrous policies. Now it’s about winning, forget principle.
This will eventually erode into a shouting match between us. On my side of the fence, Obama supporters who are fed up with idiot Conservatives and idiot Clinton supporters. On the other, Clinton supporters who don’t care that they’re fucking up the country as long as the (don’t forget to whisper) black guy doesn’t get nominated. Jerry Springer will moderate.
I’ll go first: SHE A HO!!
Tags: 2008 Primaries, Hillary Clinton, Obama
April 22nd, 2008 at 5:17 pm
I think you are missing a bigger point. It doesm’t matter who our next President is, not much will change as long as Congress stays the same. AND IT WILL stay the same. As long as the Democans and Rebuplicrats control the purse strings of America and only answer to special interest groups and forget the people, jobs will continue to be lost to other nations as Americans wages lower, the dollar will continue to spiral down the toilet of devaluation until the paper its printed on is worth more, the working class will not be able to afford regular sustenance.
Sorry to be the one to tell you, but Obama is not the answer. Sure if, and I mean IF, he stops all military operations in the Middle East, it may fend off a depression by 3-6 months but the damage has already been done. Adding a national health care at this time will only increase the speed at which the rest of the world will no longer accept the dollar as currency (America is already bankrupt with $9 trillion+ deficit and the bankers are nearly ready to call the loans). McCain nor Hillary neither are the answer.
Several of the past administrations and most of the Congresses (Congri?) are to blame AS MUCH as the Bush administration. The formers set the precedent. But mostly I blame the people. We the People are ignorant and have let this happen. For the better part of a century (1913- present) the collapse of the dollar has been inevitable, corporate interests setting American policy at the expense of the people also inevitable, rights eroded for security and safety inevitable, non-wars costing untold lives and treasure have become the norm all because we are ignorant.
The only hope, THE ONLY HOPE, is to get rid of all those who are in power now at every level of government. But this will not and cannot happen because that means the giving up of power by those who are in control. This means putting faith in the unknown which is scarrier than the known -EVEN THOUGH IT IS EVIL. I like to say Democrat or Republican there is a 100% chance that your taxes will go up and some of your freedoms will be lost, with an independent there is a 50% chance of the same.
-end rant-
April 23rd, 2008 at 3:49 am
I am most pissed that MSM is leading so many around by the nose. They never refute any of the Clinton or McCain lies but leap at the nonsense accusations against Obama. Hillary has passed no significant legislation, has no elected experience, lies about being shot at, lies about health care legislation she had almost nothing to do with etc. McCain is simply senile. Yet MSM can’t stand the thought of any CHANGE in Washington and apparantly a large portion of our population never question what they see on the tube.
April 23rd, 2008 at 8:32 am
Brad — Man, where have you been the past seven years? Especially when considering the centralization of powers to the Executive Branch, exponentially increasing their authority, it certainly DOES matter who ends up in the White House. Bush gives us example after loathsome example of this. Notice how it wasn’t until his party was in the minority that he started using his Executive Privilege and veto powers so excessively. Bush has single-handedly blocked investigation, inquiry, and legislative process without any oversight from the Judiciary and certainly without the oversight or consent of Congress.
Y’know what sounds like too much power to me? One man’s stubbornness halting the entire government in its tracks.
Republicans and Democrats both have plans to get us out of this rut. The problem is, Republicans are doing what Republicans do and want to give more money to the elite/already rich portion of our society. They don’t seem to realize that their stupid plan doesn’t work. Actually, it’s one of the worst analogies I’ve heard of, the whole “water the top and it eventually trickles down to the grass-roots. You don’t grow the plant by watering the blossom, you grow it by watering the ground it rises from. Similarly, you don’t make a computer better by putting the latest operating system on it, you upgrade and maintain the hardware, THEN put it on. Republicans want to run Windows Vista on a Windows 98 machine, catch my drift? And until the wealthiest of this country can prove that their the ones breaking their backs to hold the economy up, they ought to be last in the handout line.
Bottom line: the Economy does better when people have more disposable income.
I agree that Obama is going to have to be on the stick from the get-go. Both candidates have vowed “no new taxes,” but, we’ve heard that one before from both parties. I don’t think it will be possible (or, really, even ethical) at this point to stop each and every military operation in the Middle East, but I guarantee he’ll cut it down a heck of a lot. Then again, maybe he will take them out, who can say? Things like national healthcare are second-term promises anyway, we know this. The first term needs to be focused on fixing the fuck ups we’ve endured since 2001.
While I agree that the former “Congri” (lmao, nice one) and administrations set the precedent, I’d write them off more as links in a chain of incremental complexity, stupidity and corruption. All it took was for someone to seize upon it hence, the previous few Administrations.
Are the people to blame? Partly. But I’d ask you which is worse: the manipulators or the people they sucker? While I can’t blame the populace for naivety (though I’d wish they’d get a clue before exercising their right to vote), I do blame them for their complacency. But then again, that’s how the system is being engineered.
April 23rd, 2008 at 8:37 am
Michael - Clinton and McCain lie all the damn time. They apply numerous double standards, call out others for doing stuff they didn’t do…stuff that the ACCUSER is guilty of, flip-flop faster than a flacid penis in the wind… it’s unreal that some of this shit isn’t being talked about.
Why is the Weather Underground still an issue? Moreover, why hasn’t Hillary been grilled over President Clinton’s pardon of two members? It’s an association issue, just like Rezko, Wright and Ayers. Double standards.
McCain is just incompetent. He was incompetent in 2000 and he’s incompetent now.
April 23rd, 2008 at 9:12 am
I started out this election undecided, trying to pick between Clinton and Obama; many of the online “quizzes” and lists of candidates positions showed either as being a good match for my core beliefs. However, seeing this primary season run it’s course I’ve definitely moved to the Obama camp. I’m astounded by the tactics Hillary has used and am now a whole-hearted Obama supporter.
April 23rd, 2008 at 9:41 am
I started out at a loss. Obama didn’t seem terribly strong in debates (still doesn’t, really), but he seemed like he was trying to fit the mold and be like everyone else. Well, that changed. I didn’t like Clinton from the beginning, but hadn’t ruled out voting for her by any means. Honestly, I liked Joe Biden. He seemed pragmatic, which is a good trait for these times. I also liked Edwards, since he’s got no problem telling it like it is to Big Business, something we also desperately need these days.
Honestly, I hope the two men get appropriate places in Obama’s cabinet. They’d be valuable assets.
April 29th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
postsimian,
Sorry for the long response time, I’ve been away for a week. You are making my point. Congress has had the authority the entire 7 year power grab to do something about it. They could have voted NO on the Patriot ACT I & II, they could have kept Homeland Security limited in power but voted to increase it many times, they could have impeached the President for several different reasons not the least of which is assuming the power to go to war (which all of Congress has continued to allow with a stupid arguement). My point was, either our elected representatives do not understand the Constitution and the powers granted there within, or the are flatly ignoring said powers. In either case all of them are bad for America.
April 29th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
I think you’re right: they’re ignoring it. At this point, they’ll keep ignoring it. To what appears to be a vast majority of these people, the Constitution is something to wipe your ass with, not honor. That much is obvious.
The dilemma we’re faced with at this point is: who will do less damage? Remember which party was in power for most of those years. Members of Congress simply can’t be lumped together as a whole. It’s not like they could do anything when the ruling party stonewalls the minority, nor could they change things when one man has the authority to overrule Congress without even needing to justify why.
I’m not the only one who sees how quickly this country is becoming a shitty place to live. At this point, I think it’s a matter of when, not if. We’ll eventually reach a breaking point. We’ll have a civil war or a revolution. The resulting government will either be like the one we started out as, or a totalitarian police state. Let it come, I say. I’m getting bored with all the foreplay.